Friday, May 26, 2006

X Men 3

by Chris
I really wanted to hate it, but I have absolutely nothing bad to say about this movie. I think it might be my favorite of the X-Men films, it's just hard to break through the Ratner hatred barrier enough to really rave about it. It doesn't take itself too seriously and does a nice job of tying up the trilogy. For a standard-fare action flick with minimal emotional resonance, you could do much worse.

On a side note, reactions to the Snakes on a Plane trailer were incredible. Among the laughter, hoots, and scattered applause I overheard some great tidbits:

"Is that a real movie?"
"That is the stupidest thing I've ever seen."
"This will be the greatest movie ever."


Blogger Count Olaf said...

Just got back from a matinee showing (extra long lunch). Although I didn't want to hate it, I was cautiously optimistic. And for that I was pleasantly surprised. It wasn't out of place with the other X films (i thought).
All of the distractions I thought were going to be there (too much Storm, cheesy lines, Frasier plays Beast) really weren't they way I imagined. Sure there were a few lines, but we had heard them already so it seemed like nothing. Though lamest of all was the Juggernaut rick james impression....Coulda done without that.

I pretty much knew the story going in but, for some reason, I was completely shocked by a main character's death. I thought it was handled well...maybe even too quickly. Ratner could have poured on another minute of sadness and it wouldn't have felt like he was pulling tears out of the audience. But there was just enough to feel an emotion and then go on with the story.
The opening sequences were wonderful and helped to dispel the fanboy angst against Brett. He did a great job with the emotional scenes and the action was really intense. Beast rocks. Phoenix rocks.

It was a great addition to the X-films and I hope whoever tackles another will do just as well.

**I hope you all stay until after the credits. Very good 15 seconds there.**

ALSO, and Nic will be happy to know, the trailer for Superman was the best one yet. I'm actually getting more interested.

5/26/2006 04:41:00 PM  
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5/27/2006 09:43:00 AM  
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5/27/2006 09:52:00 AM  
Blogger Chris said...

I loved the Juggernaut line. At least the bad dialogue was funny-bad, like Magneto saying "we must end this war!" after 10 minutes of fighting.

I didn't really feel any of the deaths, although there were a few moments that got me. I was sad when a couple of characters got "cured." And the early scene with Angel as a kid shook me up a little.

I don't understand the lack of love for Grammar as Beast. I've been casting him as Beast in my mind since before the first movie came out. He did look like a stuffed animal in his makeup, but I have to give them credit for using real makeup and not CG fur.

PS: sorry bout the deleted posts, the closing tag to my link wasn't working. But I think it was worth this:

5/27/2006 09:57:00 AM  
Blogger Count Olaf said...

Another cool thing was that in the theater I saw it in (it was about 1/3 to 1/2 full at a noon showing) was that you could hear people telling their friends and significant others "That's Stan Lee" at the beginning when he's holding the water hose.
I leaned over to tell my wife and I could see the guy from the couple in front of me lean over and say it and I heard two guys behind me go "I think that's Stan Lee" "You're right!"
Very shrewd of Ratner and goes a long way towards building goodwill with this film in the opening minutes.

It's been a day and I still can't get this film out of my head. It's been in the forefront of my mind since I saw it. It's a really good addition to the series. I'd like to know if there are any X-men fans who liked the first two but didn't like this one....

5/27/2006 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with everything posted here. Pleasantly surprised, and this film fits right in with the other two as far as quality. Yes, some of the dialogue was very cheesy, Limburger cheesey (I groaned inwardly at the standard comic-book-during-a-fight between Wolverine and McCoy late in the film). Also surprised at the high body count and "cures" to characters. Also, unless you've been living in a cave, the mutantism = homosexual metaphor rings loud and strong.

Jackrabbit Slim, posting from home

5/28/2006 10:17:00 AM  
Blogger Brian said...

I'd like to know if there are any X-men fans who liked the first two but didn't like this one....

Yo. I thought it was only a little better than "Fantastic Four". Having just re-watched the second one yesterday, and the new one today, the new one really suffers in comparison.

The tone was much different, lacking the urgency the second one had. I thought Magneto was far less interesting, since they removed almost all of his ambivalance in favor of making him a straight-ahead villian. I also thought they lost the interesting traits of Xavier, making him too much of a jerk ("I don't have to explain myself ... especially to you.")

I thought the subplots involving Rogue and (especially) Mystique were lame. I hated the one-liners, especially from Beast, where they seemed to serve as a substitute for character development. I thought the end battle between the mutants was lame, as if they just wanted to show off special effects (look, look, we can make arms grow back! Isn't that cool?!).

I thought everything about the Phoenix character was lazy. Her very presence made just about everything else that happened irrelevant, and the filmmakers never really even tried to figure out a good way to use her. She could do whatever she wanted, but mostly didn't, for reasons completely unknown.

Basically, this movie was exactly what I was afraid the first one would be. But Singer made the first one decent, and the second very good. "The Last Stand" is the "Return of the Jedi" of the series.

5/28/2006 03:09:00 PM  
Blogger Count Olaf said...

I've been reading that "Return of the Jedi" comment all over town (if you can call the Internet a town) with some people against saying "no way, the final battle in ROTJ was far superior to the supposed Last Stand" and others in favor.
Personally, I loved Return of the Jedi. I didn't know you were supposed to hate it until I read about it on the Internet after the first trilogy was re-released in 1997. But I don't compare the two. I went into X3 expecting it to be OK and I came away thinking it was great. Not as good as X2, but definitely as good as X1 (which I'm now reading was a low budget affair that was barely passable. who are these Internet revisionists speaking for the masses?)

The best description I've read is that X2 & X3 seem like two halves of the same movie....It seems to me that it picked up a little while after 2 and ran with the characters being on edge. Desperate. Magneto and Charles reverted to their instictual selves because of the desperation they felt what with the cure and the phoenix in the mix.

It was far from perfect and certainly had its inconsistencies (shall we start with hair? Wasn't jean grey's hair SHORT in x2? Has storm ever had Salt & Pepper streaks? ) And Ratner is no Singer, but I loved it.

5/28/2006 05:19:00 PM  
Blogger Brian said...

My "Jedi" analogy was on a relative scale, not an absolute one. I don't hate Jedi, but I think it's markedly inferior to Empire, especially in terms of story. I think the same way about X3 compared to X2, but in absolute terms, I like X3 much less than Jedi.

My feelings of X1 haven't changed since I first saw it. I suspected then that it would work better as an introduction to a series than a stand-alone film, and I think that judgment turned out to be pretty dead-on. It was, as I said before, decent, but too rushed to really be considered much better than that - as if Batman Begins had gone straight from his escape of the mountain fortress to the train scene at the end.

5/29/2006 03:23:00 PM  
Blogger Jackrabbit Slim said...

For those who have seen the film: doesn't the last scene with Magneto at the chessboard and then the teaser after the credits leave the chances for another sequel high? Last one, my foot.

5/30/2006 01:04:00 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

The last scene, compounded with the stellar opening weekend, pretty much guarantees an X-Men 4. I thought they would take a break in the franchise to do the Wolverine and Magneto spin-offs, but now I think the chances of that happening are a lot slimmer.

I'm glad they made Xavier more of a dick. He is a huge douche in the comics, especially when his judgement is questioned. In the first two movies I just saw him as Picard in a wheelchair.

It's not X3's fault that Rogue's story was lame. Her character had been watered down and de-powered for Singer's film, and this made her much less interesting. Her power-leeching ability is pretty much useless without the flight, invulnerability, and super-strength that she got when she killed Miss Marvel in the comics. Movie Rogue has always been a lame duck and I am satisfied that she at least got a happy ending in this installment.

Brian is right about Phoenix being misused, though. She should have been the focus of the story.

5/31/2006 02:03:00 PM  
Blogger Brian said...

If they want to make Xavier a dick, fine, but give him a reason to be one. It seemed silly for him to react the way he did to Wolverine, when all he needed to do was explain what was going on a little better. It just seemed contrived to me.

You're right, Rogue's role was on the decline in X2. Her X3 subplot was still lame, though.

5/31/2006 03:44:00 PM  

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