Friday, February 23, 2007

Going Elsewhere

by Nick
Regarding Brians comment in the Lost thread, great minds think alike. Been thinking about that myself lately. Even started doodling potential banners for my own amusement.

Checked out Vox, looks great! I dig it. My own small suggestion would be Wordpress, which doesn't look as cool, but looks more stable (here's an example of a nice site). Not a Livejournal fan, aesthetically and programming-wise it looks like a bitch.

Personally, I'm all for moving.





25 Comments:

Blogger jaydro said...

What's not clear to me is if Vox allows team blogs--maybe you're just supposed to have a bunch of individual blogs linked together?

And my previous comment about using blogspot without Blogger was me remembering the pre-Google Blogger days when you could use blogspot just for hosting--I don't think that's possible anymore (Blogspot Plus is defunct, and it wasn't free, anyway).

WordPress looks cool. Haven't checked out how it works vs. Blogger, though.

2/23/2007 11:48:00 AM  
Blogger Brian said...

WordPress looks like a more advanced version of Blogger, which would be fine by me. Blogger's made strides just in the last year (with the addition of tags, for instance), but they always seem a bit behind the rest of the world in terms of features.

Can't tell what Vox looks like.

But in the end, not a big deal to me. All I care about is posting and commenting so those who want more than that will need to figure out what works the best.

2/23/2007 12:09:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

Otherwise we could just start a new forum. There's free software and hosting for that as well. Both at the same time, even? So reviews and Dallas premieres and such go on the blog, and shorter stuff goes up on the forum. But maybe that would be confusing.

2/23/2007 12:48:00 PM  
Blogger jaydro said...

Just checking out WordPress--it offends me that their default theme is "Kubrick" and does not use the Futura font. I'm going to have to complain to the author. Trebuchet MS--what was he thinking?

2/23/2007 01:21:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

What's not clear to me is if Vox allows team blogs--maybe you're just supposed to have a bunch of individual blogs linked together?

No, looks like the point of Vox is to create social networks of some kind, with individual blogs.

I know it's definitely possible with Wordpress, if you look at the linked site.

it offends me that their default theme is "Kubrick" and does not use the Futura font.

That is what the editing feature is for.

Didn't know that about Kubricks penchant for the font. That first Futura poster is awesome.

Here's a few other links to some other good looking Wordpress blogs.

http://www.justinshattuck.com/
http://indieanthems.com/
http://www.twoinchview.com/

2/23/2007 01:47:00 PM  
Blogger Professor Wagstaff said...

I'm pretty much like Brian in that my main interests are posting (which I admittedly haven't been doing much of lately) and commenting, but if anyone can find a more suitable or advanced way for this to work, that's fine by me.

2/24/2007 09:41:00 AM  
Blogger jaydro said...

I'm basically cool with Blogger, though I would be happier if we could get the blog comments RSS feed working. One thing that bugs me about WordPress is their for-pay upgrades. Maybe we'd never need that (how close are we to going over 1GB?), but I always tend to favor totally free stuff. ;-) That kind of thing has kept me from investing time in more than one photo-hosting website--it's hard to justify a few better features when someone else is giving away something slightly inferior with no storage limits (I'm thinking Flickr vs. AOL Photos, and I generally hate AOL).

2/25/2007 12:43:00 AM  
Blogger Jackrabbit Slim said...

I'm fine with Blogger, too, it serves my needs (and I have my own blog on this Blogger as well) and as a cranky old man who doesn't like change (Brian, I'm much older than you), am very reluctant to move. Also, are all of these alternatives FREE? I love the interplay on this blog, but I wouldn't love it so much if I had to shell out money.

Whatever you decide, just send me to the right link.

2/25/2007 08:08:00 AM  
Blogger Nick said...

Yeah, and who does the blog, exactly? Am I supposed to start it? Is Brian? And how should it look? What do we prioritize in the new blog? Is this just about the comments, or should we aim for a little more?

And having it free is pretty much a given for me. After the rent's been paid I live on $400-500 a month, and most of that goes to food, so expect no huge cross-Atlantic financial backing from here.

Yeah and isn't it time we put Jackrabbit's blog up on the link list?

2/25/2007 08:21:00 AM  
Blogger jaydro said...

Yeah and isn't it time we put Jackrabbit's blog up on the link list?

Uh, no. ;-)

It would only encourage him.

Okay, I'm teasing a bit, but I just recently discovered that Jackrabbit's been holding out on us (I hadn't been to his blog in a while). I had been wondering what he thought of Letters from Iwo Jima, there was pretty much silence from him on it (or did I miss a comment?), and lo and behold there was a whole post on it over there.

So, I guess I'll check out his blog, but when he has quality movie stuff to write about, I'd rather read it here.

I mean, maybe my feelings have been hurt a little bit. But at the same time I can understand where Jackrabbit's coming from. So I guess I feel a bit conflicted about it.

2/25/2007 10:57:00 AM  
Blogger Count Olaf said...

I am a complete doormat/lemming on this one

2/26/2007 12:58:00 AM  
Blogger Jackrabbit Slim said...

I hadn't trumpeted the existence of my blog here because I am by nature a shy, reticent person. I'm not holding out so much as not wished to advertise on this site for my own purpose. But if you're interested, it's gogorama.blogspot.com.

2/27/2007 08:11:00 AM  
Blogger jaydro said...

I'm not holding out so much as [....]

When I said "holding out" I was referring to your postings on movies and other topics that were discussed here, but which you posted about only on your blog or your blog postings were more elaborate (and better!) versions of your postings here.

Back to the "going elsewhere" discussion: I also just discovered ning.com, but I'm not sure I like that any better, either. It does combine blogs and forums, though.

2/27/2007 11:51:00 AM  
Blogger Jackrabbit Slim said...

Jaydro, fair enough, but I try not to post too much here, I don't want to dominate. We have a pretty nice mix of personalities, and nobody overwhelms the blog. My blog, on the other hand, is only me, so I feel I can blather on and on there, while trying to be more succinct here.

2/27/2007 12:21:00 PM  
Blogger jaydro said...

Jackrabbit--I'm all for you blathering on here as much as you like about most topics except women's hockey. ;-) But like I said before, I understand where you're coming from. My conflictedness about it stems from sometimes wondering if I should comment on your post here or over there. And I was bummed about only belatedly seeing what you thought of Letters from Iwo Jima. :-/

2/27/2007 12:42:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

As far as I'm concerned all it is is a click or two. I'm just saying it would be nice if it was one click instead of two (ie clicking Jackrabbit's profile and then Gogorama).

And about dominating - I wish I was dominating more, but at the moment I find it nicer to talk about what other people think, than what I think.

And hey, can I get an opinion on how we should do the new site? Is Brian away designing a new place? Or is he just busy elsewhere?

And Vox does have group blogs (in beta) but I don't know how their commenting thing looks, or works. Most of the group blogs I've looked at over there don't give me any good clue as to how they operate.

2/27/2007 12:51:00 PM  
Blogger Brian said...

Sorry, been MIA for a few days, sick as a dog with pneumonia or some kind of godawful affliction like that. Going to the doc in a half hour or so, hopefully will find out what it is.

So, no, I haven't been working on anything. Hardly done anything but sit in bed or my office staring into air for about 4 days now.

Hopefully will be back to full-speed soon, to rejoin this discussion fully.

2/27/2007 01:16:00 PM  
Blogger jaydro said...

Get well soon, Brian!

I've been recovering from a nasty little sinus infection that peaked last Friday. I thought I was going to make it through the winter with no illness.... *sigh*

Vox--you know they have Vox groups, too, so you can publish both to your own blog and to a group blog simultaneously, right? Or is that the same as the group blog? The recent comments sidebar isn't a hack as with blogger, but repositioning things in the sidebar may require some manual work--or can you do that? Hmmm, I'm starting to get Vox and WordPress mixed up. Doesn't look like Vox lets you put in your own stylesheet. The commenting seems pretty straightforward to me--they limit comments to logged-in Vox users. You can comment mine to death if you want: jaydro.vox.com

2/27/2007 01:41:00 PM  
Blogger jaydro said...

But how can we leave Blogger when we now have such esteemed company? The old guy really impresses me sometimes....

2/27/2007 06:39:00 PM  
Blogger Nick said...

Do illnesses like proliferate through broadband? Been dealing with a friggin horrible flu all weekend. Lost two or three days just lying in bed, coughing and wheezing with a headache and fever.

3/05/2007 12:43:00 PM  
Blogger jaydro said...

Just an update: I played around with WordPress a little, and I found it harder to make a good-looking post (with an uploaded image) than with Blogger, plus the site (at least at the time) was intolerably slow. Vox is a snap.

I hope Nick and Brian are soon feeling well.

3/05/2007 03:37:00 PM  
Blogger jaydro said...

Hey, I just checked again, and the RSS feed for blog comments is now working! Thanks for fixing that, Brian (I'm assuming).

Vox doesn't have an RSS feed for comments (nor does it let you put in your own CSS stylesheet or edit your template for fonts etc.)....

3/06/2007 06:53:00 PM  
Blogger Brian said...

Huh, what now? I didn't do anything.

Blogger probably did something behind the scenes ... I don't think I have any control of anything like that.

3/07/2007 09:40:00 AM  
Blogger jaydro said...

Well, I think there's a setting where you can turn on or off the blog comments feed.

So you didn't do anything; maybe it was just a hiccup when I first tried it or maybe it was a problem with Bloglines for all I know. But now it's working, and I'm happy. :-)

3/07/2007 11:33:00 AM  
Blogger jaydro said...

I just noticed that with the upgrade of Picasa web albums to 1GB of storage rather than the measly 250MB they were offering, the photos I've uploaded to Blogger are now in my previously non-existent Picasa web album, and they're not counting towards my space usage. Hmmmm.

3/08/2007 10:07:00 AM  

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