Unusual episode in that it was dominated by a flashback (forward?), but certainly time is the key to all this, or at least time related to destiny. What isn't clear is Desmond's timeline. If what we saw was a chronological retelling of what happened to him after he turned the key: he went back in time, made the same mistakes and then returned to the island, then I'm still not sure how he can see into the future. Has he seen his complete future, unstuck in time like Billy Pilgrim in Slaughterhouse-Five? Time travel fiction always makes my head hurt.
Isn't it possible he is 'coming back into his pasts' i.e. he sees what happens, and then goes back in time to before the event? Notice his confusion in the jungle before he saves Claire/Charlie from drowning. The people on the island, and us viewers, only see the 'corrected' timeline.
A very good episode. Another one like this and they're back on track.
Finally watched it tonight (was busy last night seeing the World Premiere performance of The Great Game, which I think will need a lot of work before it hits Broadway, if it does), and I don't have much to add except that I liked it, and, yeah, time travel conumdrums can make your head hurt. I wouldn't mind if it turns out that the central character of Lost is Desmond. Is he unstuck in time, or is the island unstuck in time?
I wouldn't mind if it turns out that the central character of Lost is Desmond.
Me neither. He also has the proper Crusoe credentials, having stranded on the island on a proper ship, instead of some airplane, and made his own life on the island for a way longer time than the others. Also, he has a beard.
Is he unstuck in time, or is the island unstuck in time?
Aren't both possible? They said he'd been there for three years, so he's a product of his environment.
But one thing that might speak against this 'unstuck in time' theory is the conclusion of last season and the scientist on polar ice cap that discovered a signal. She didn't look that old when she answered the phone. On the other hand, she looked younger in this episode. But there's at least a five year gap between the flashback and the flashforwards, so...
Ah...time... Desmond definitely rocks and I think this was one of the best episodes of Lost yet, even though almost nothing was explained and many more questions were brought up(as per usual).
My theory:
When Desmond turned the key he went back in time (somehow) and inhabited his old time with *some* knowledge of the relative future up to the key turning .We can't explain the jeweler, but I honestly believe this was his "first trip" back. Following those rules, however, he would be stuck in an infinite loop...always turning the key to go back in time to arrive at the key-turning...etc...
BUT
The whack on the head by Mr. Lennon's cricket bat pushed him slightly farther in the future than he had been....waking up naked in the jungle post-blast.
HOWEVER
He can now "see" (or is it remember) bits and pieces of the new relative future. And if it works the same as before it means that he has already been through the future once and is running around trying to change things.
THEREFORE
waking up naked in the jungle would have actually been a travel backwards in time making him a Terminator like I said all along.
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Unusual episode in that it was dominated by a flashback (forward?), but certainly time is the key to all this, or at least time related to destiny. What isn't clear is Desmond's timeline. If what we saw was a chronological retelling of what happened to him after he turned the key: he went back in time, made the same mistakes and then returned to the island, then I'm still not sure how he can see into the future. Has he seen his complete future, unstuck in time like Billy Pilgrim in Slaughterhouse-Five? Time travel fiction always makes my head hurt.
Isn't it possible he is 'coming back into his pasts' i.e. he sees what happens, and then goes back in time to before the event? Notice his confusion in the jungle before he saves Claire/Charlie from drowning. The people on the island, and us viewers, only see the 'corrected' timeline.
A very good episode. Another one like this and they're back on track.
Finally watched it tonight (was busy last night seeing the World Premiere performance of The Great Game, which I think will need a lot of work before it hits Broadway, if it does), and I don't have much to add except that I liked it, and, yeah, time travel conumdrums can make your head hurt. I wouldn't mind if it turns out that the central character of Lost is Desmond. Is he unstuck in time, or is the island unstuck in time?
I wouldn't mind if it turns out that the central character of Lost is Desmond.
Me neither. He also has the proper Crusoe credentials, having stranded on the island on a proper ship, instead of some airplane, and made his own life on the island for a way longer time than the others. Also, he has a beard.
Is he unstuck in time, or is the island unstuck in time?
Aren't both possible? They said he'd been there for three years, so he's a product of his environment.
But one thing that might speak against this 'unstuck in time' theory is the conclusion of last season and the scientist on polar ice cap that discovered a signal. She didn't look that old when she answered the phone. On the other hand, she looked younger in this episode. But there's at least a five year gap between the flashback and the flashforwards, so...
Ah...time...
Desmond definitely rocks and I think this was one of the best episodes of Lost yet, even though almost nothing was explained and many more questions were brought up(as per usual).
My theory:
When Desmond turned the key he went back in time (somehow) and inhabited his old time with *some* knowledge of the relative future up to the key turning .We can't explain the jeweler, but I honestly believe this was his "first trip" back. Following those rules, however, he would be stuck in an infinite loop...always turning the key to go back in time to arrive at the key-turning...etc...
BUT
The whack on the head by Mr. Lennon's cricket bat pushed him slightly farther in the future than he had been....waking up naked in the jungle post-blast.
HOWEVER
He can now "see" (or is it remember) bits and pieces of the new relative future. And if it works the same as before it means that he has already been through the future once and is running around trying to change things.
THEREFORE
waking up naked in the jungle would have actually been a travel backwards in time making him a Terminator like I said all along.
Only fools....
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