Thursday, May 25, 2006

Lost Season Finale

by Jackrabbit Slim
Discuss amongst yourselves.


Blogger Jackrabbit Slim said...

Some questions:

1. Are Locke and Eko alive?

2. I don't know much about philosophy, so can someone tell me the significance of two men named Locke and Hume deciding the fate of the island (and perhaps the world)?

3. Humen and Inman referred to the Others as the Hostiles. Just what the fuck are they up to?

4. Are Sayid, Jin and Sun going to come to save Jack, Kate and Sawyer?

5. Henry's comments to Michael seem to suggest that the magnetic field around the island make it difficult to leave and find (Desmond had this problem, and so did the boat at the end of season 1). Will Michael and Walt make it out? Somehow I don't think so.

5/25/2006 07:08:00 AM  
Blogger jaydro said...

I predict we may never see Michael and Walt again, or at least not until next season's finale. Of course I'm usually wrong. I'm just thinking that Walt's character has to be a problem when you've got a kid on a show that takes two years to cover two months of time....

The producers are so smart--they left so many characters open to not returning if their agents ask for too much money or threaten not to show up. ;-)

I'm not sure how this finale was supposed to be so much better than last year's finale. It felt about the same to me. That we see something off the island that's not a flashback only raises more questions....

Last year they blew the hatch open and Walt was kidnapped at sea. This year they blew up the hatch (or did something) killing who knows who, set Michael and Walt free, and left our heroes captured by the Others, while showing us that Desmond's gal is looking for him with great determination and large resources at her disposal.

I still want to know how Jack knows Desmond's gal. Remember how he looked at that photo back at the beginning of the season?

And one more thing, something I thought about in the M:I:3 discussion on Tom Cruise's acting style: doesn't Matthew Fox often seem like he has attended Tom Cruise's master classes? ;-)

5/25/2006 08:51:00 AM  
Blogger Colin said...

1. Hmmm...well Jack was there at the football stadium when Desmond's gal showed up, but it seems like he was already inside before he could have seen her.

2. Well, now we have Rousseau, Locke, and Hume. Having studied philosophy in college, I can tell you that they are three of the four social contract therorists (Thomas Hobbes being the 4th). In varying degrees they talk about man coming out of a 'state of nature' and giving up certain rights to form communities. The island, I guess, in some ways could be seen as a microcosm of that.

3. So, that look that Jack gave Kate at the end means that he must have a plan, right? I mean seriously, can he be that stupid? He knows that Michael has deceived him. He knows that they're supposedly being led to the water and that Sayid's going to be there with the black smoke. And yet, when Michael is leading them to an open area in the center of the island, he does nothing?

5/25/2006 09:06:00 AM  
Blogger Jackrabbit Slim said...

Another literary allusion: Penelope, Desmond's gal, is the name of Odysseus' wife, who waited patiently for him to return (while fending off suitors). If the scientists who called her are part of an effort to find Desmond, how would they know to look for electromagnetic anomalies?

5/25/2006 09:26:00 AM  
Blogger Chris said...

A. It's a coincidence. Penelope is looking for the island, imagine her surprise when she finds Desmond there.

B. Penelope noticed the magnetic anomoly that was the cause of Desmond's shipwreck and was waiting for another so she could pinpoint his location.

I liked this finale a lot better than last season. I loved the sheer WTF! moment when the sailboat passed the four-toed statue. And the giant bird screaming Hurley's name!?

Inman, the other guy in the hatch with Desmond, was the high ranking military guy in Sayid's last flashback.

And what was up with Libby giving Desmond, a complete stranger, a boat? She seemed like she was wearing a disguise of some sort. Maybe her presence in this and Hurley's flashbacks was part of some undercover operation? Also, Libby mentioned that her husband was named David, as in Hurley's imaginary friend Dave?

Oh I hope they don't kill Ecko and Locke (OMG both buys have anagrams of the word "Coke" in their names...ooooEEEEooooo!), they are my two favorite characters right now.

I so don't want to wait till fall to see where this goes.

5/25/2006 11:18:00 AM  
Blogger Count Olaf said...

Perhaps she (Penny) knew that her father drew Desmond's (Libby's) metal boat to the island 3 years ago (though Desmond said he had been down there two years on the day he supposedly crashed the plane. Weird timeline here).
Theoretically, Mr. Widmore would know where Desmond was at on the solo race and if he had knowledge of the island could ask them to create an incident to draw the boat in. Then maybe he let his daughter know he had taken care of Desmond.
Using her wiles (and mountains of money) she finds out that her father controls (or is involved in) some electromagnetic geological study group somewhere in the world and then hires a team of scientists to study/look for it from their cold climate. Perhaps Antartica? Might be closer to the south pacific than the USA....
And it sounds like they missed the one from 2 months ago...

In addition to asking if Locke and Eko are alive, I would ask if Desmond is alive. The hatch clearly did not blow up via nuclear weapon or Charlie would have been toast...and possibly everyone else. Cement may have been layered over everything to protect the rest of the island, but there is a pretty big opening at the top. And what kind of even sends the Quarantine door flying through the air for...i don't know...a mile?..before landing on the beach. Again, it apparently didn't effect Charlie too much so it's pretty well contained.

5/25/2006 11:19:00 AM  
Blogger Count Olaf said...

Oh...and did it seem to anyone else that there was more than one person in a yellow suit to retrieve Desmond? OR was it just his state of semi-consciousness blurring things up. I really thought I saw more than one but they never brought it up so my mind could be playing tricks on me.

5/25/2006 11:22:00 AM  
Blogger Jackrabbit Slim said...

Until we see a corpse, we can't assume anyone is dead, but I don't hold out much hope for Desmond.

I think the guys in the scientific station said to Penelope--"it happened again", so the first time would have been when the plane crashed.

Libby is now connected to two castaways, Desmond and Hurley, so clearly there's more going on with her, even though she's dead.

Since we did see a shot of the world outside the island, the first non-flashback glimpse in the show's run, we can assume that they are not in purgatory, and is not a shared dream or hallucination. What they are going through is really happening to them, on Earth.

5/25/2006 11:48:00 AM  
Blogger jaydro said...

Inman, the other guy in the hatch with Desmond, was the high ranking military guy in Sayid's last flashback.

Yes! Thank you, Chris (you know, I still want to call you Satyr)! That was bugging me. I should have just looked up Clancy Brown, but I'm coincidentally finally watching the second season of Carnivale, so his significant presence in that was masking my memory of him from Lost. Yeah, he was the guy who taught Sayid how to tortue, so to speak.

5/25/2006 12:17:00 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

Or maybe the anomoly isn't why Desmond crashed on the island, maybe Libby gave him a boat with faulty equipment designed to take him stright to the island. Maybe the one that brought the plane down was the first.

I wonder if an electromagnetic disturbance like the one that crashed flight 815 is powerful enough to alter the rotation of the earth. Maybe Penelope isn't in an arctic research station, and that's just what New Jersey looks like now. The island could be the new axis of the earth's rotation, which would explain why Desmond went in a complete circle by following due west.

Far fetched, sure, but that would be pretty cool.

5/25/2006 12:36:00 PM  
Blogger Count Olaf said...

Remember, though, that Locke's compass did not work properly in Season 1 either. Just because your compass says due west doesn't mean you're going west when you've got the island involved....

5/25/2006 01:23:00 PM  
Anonymous lora said...

Interesting theory from a coworker: the Others were once part of the Dharma Initiative, discovered that it was of evil intent, and are rebels. That would explain Henry Gale insisting that they are the good guys. This would also explain Inman calling them Hostiles.

Sayid knew he had been duped when he opened the empty hatch door; he will be back to help save his fellow survivors.

I wonder if Libby was given the same kind of choice Michael was given...dupe poor Desmond into taking her boat, or she will lose something she loves. Maybe her husband wasn't really dead. Sayid was given some pretty horrible choices to make, as well.

5/25/2006 07:47:00 PM  
Blogger Colin said...

Lora, here's what I don't get about the Others-as-good-guys-theory: why did they act they way that they did toward the people in the plane crash? We're led to believe that they killed a bunch of them without being provoked. Did they think that they were part of Dharma?

5/26/2006 08:12:00 AM  
Blogger Count Olaf said...

Another point to ponder....
If this magnet caused the plane crash, is it directional? I ask because what happened Wednesday night was for a much longer period of time and more powerful than the time Desmond had a system failure. However, many cans and metal items were still on the beach! Sure, they moved a little, but how much more would they have been drawn to the source than a plan that is thousands of feet in the air? And not on the island? Could it rip a plane in half that far away?

I watched it all again last night (my wife missed it on Wednesday) and answered some of my own little questions. But it makes you want to watch the whole season again to see if you can find out more. I really want to know why Charlie was so batty at the end. Was it just shell shock or denial or what? He's normally freaking out and now he's just joking around with Claire.

5/26/2006 11:40:00 AM  
Blogger Chris said...

Charlie has been acting weird all season. We have taken to calling him creepy Charlie because he has really changed alot since season 1. I think he might be sick.

It makes sense with how cruel the Lost writers are. Get Charlie together with Claire finally, then kill him off with the plague next season. Hookups never go well on this island.

5/26/2006 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous lora said...

I would like to know how Charlie has any hearing at all. He lost some in the blast, and he was most likely closer to that horrible noise at the end than anyone else.
Colin-as far as the behavior of the Others and their contention that they're the good guys, I didn't say that they are the good guys; I said that they contend they are the good guys. A lot of people have done horrible things in the name of a "just cause." They may see what they are doing as the only means to an end.

5/27/2006 12:24:00 PM  

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